There’s cosmology and then there’s real science!


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December 2016

In my realm of professional interest (physics) there are really only two types of scientists: experimental physicists carrying out experiments in laboratories, and astrophysicists (or cosmologists) who use the universe as their ‘laboratory’. Both construct mathematical models to describe their observations. Both test their models against those observations.


However the experimentalists (type 1) can interact with their experi­ments in a way the astrophysicists cannot. For example, they can send in a light signal and measure the response in the system, i.e. see what comes out. But the astrophysicists (type 2) cannot interact with what they are observing in the universe.

Historical science in astronomy

The secular astronomer (astrophysicist) makes uniformitarian assumptions to interpret the evidence of the light received with his telescopes.

Within our solar system we have been able to send probes to make observations. For example, NASA’s Deep Impact probe1 shot a 370 kg copper bullet into a comet2 and measured the spectra3 of the ejected material. And the European Space Agency (ESA)’s Rosetta spacecraft landed a robotic lander, Philae, on a comet4 and made, for the first time, direct measurements of the surface constituents. These types of measurements, you could say, are very similar to what the experimentalists do in their laboratories. But the Rosetta mission’s objectives, excerpted from the ESA website, highlight the type of science involved (emphases added):

Rosetta’s prime objective is to help understand the origin and evolution of the Solar System. The comet’s composition reflects the composition of the pre-solar nebula out of which the Sun and the planets of the Solar System formed, more than 4.6 billion years ago. Therefore, an in-depth analysis of comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko by Rosetta and its lander will provide essential information to understand how the Solar System formed.5

These are their basic underlying assumptions. This statement makes it clear that the scientists who carried out the mission believe that the solar system evolved out of a solar nebula originating more than 4.6 billion years ago. That is their untestable primary assumption. It is not testable by what they dig out of the surface of the comet, but rather they believe the measurements of that comet material will help them understand the origin of the solar system within their original assumption.

No matter how much evidence they accumulate they cannot directly observe the past; certainly not without assumptions. The material they dig out of those comets is evidence to which they always need to apply interpretations.

Even in the case of astrophysics, you might think that the astronomer is observing the past, because the light entering his telescope supposedly took millions or billions of years to traverse the vast universe to earth. But even this has its limits to what we can know.

Uniformitarian assumptions

The astrophysicists (type 2) cannot interact with what they are observing in the universe. Billions of years is an essential ingredient for an explanation of what they observe where the Creator is excluded a priori.

The secular astronomer receives light into his telescope on earth and makes the uniformitarian assumption that the light has been travelling at a constant speed (of about 300,000 km/s) for the past millions or billions of years to reach earth, and with no relativistic time dilation effects (where clocks run at different speeds in different parts of the universe).6 Only after making that assumption can he make the further assumption, not know, that what he observes is coming from some past epoch millions or billions of years earlier. But how could you test that assumption? You can’t! And for that reason this aspect of astrophysics/cosmology is not directly provable by any empirical test.

In the case of all observations beyond the solar system the problem is beyond dispute. You cannot go there. The sizes, distances and assumed ages of galaxies and other cosmic radiation/light sources, are so great that even what we measure is as though we are taking a single still photograph; it is just a moment in time.

Astronomers only observe, they cannot interact with their experiment as the experimental physicist in the laboratory can do. And what makes matters even more difficult for the astrophysicist or cosmologist is that there are many possible explanations for the same observations. But because they cannot interact with the sources under investigation (which might even be the whole universe) their science is very weak indeed. For this very reason James Gunn, co-founder of the Sloan survey, said:

“Cosmology may look like a sci­ence, but it isn’t a science. … A basic tenet of science is that you can do repeatable experiments, and you can’t do that in cosmology.”7


The European Space Agency (ESA) spacecraft, Rosetta, landed a probe on the comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko.

Astrophysics and cosmology are by their very nature loaded with philosophical underpinnings. In principle there is nothing wrong with that. You could not do any sort of science without a basis to build your model. The set of unprovable philosophical underpinnings (also called presuppositions or axioms) comprise one’s worldview. And we all have a worldview. We form that based on what we believe about the world around us and how it all began.

The difference here is that my worldview is based on the biblical truth that God, the Creator, created the universe about 6,000 years ago. It was not the result of an accident or a quantum fluctuation of some imagined/postulated vacuum or a big bang of any sort. Rather it was the result of plan and purpose as God told us in the Bible.

However, the worldview that underlies modern secular/mainstream cosmology, and cosmogony (on the origin of the universe) is an atheistic one. It has no place for a Creator, and only relies on what man can discover for himself. As a result he has had to resort to all sorts of fudge factors8 to make his model fit the observational data, the evidence from the cosmos.

References and notes

  1. NASA declares end of deep impact comet hunter mission,, September 2013. Return to text.
  2. Comet Tempel 1. Return to text.
  3. What is spectroscopy?, accessed February 2015. Return to text.
  4. Comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko. Return to text.
  5. Rosetta’s frequently asked questions,, accessed February 2015. Return to text.
  6. The effects of motion and gravity on time are measurable, testable scientific phenomena. Return to text.
  7. Cho, A., A singular conundrum: How odd is our universe? Science 317:1848–1850, 2007. Return to text.
  8. Hartnett, J.G., Is ‘dark matter’ the ‘unknown god’? Creation 37(2):22–24, 2015; Hartnett, J.G., Big bang beliefs busted, Creation 37(3):48–51, 2015. Return to text.
NASA declares end of deep impact comet hunter mission,, September 2013.
Comet Tempel 1.
What is spectroscopy?, accessed February 2015.
Comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko.
Rosetta’s frequently asked questions,, accessed February 2015.
The effects of motion and gravity on time are measurable, testable scientific phenomena.
Cho, A., A singular conundrum: How odd is our universe? Science 317:1848–1850, 2007.
Hartnett, J.G.,

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graham P., New Zealand, 27 August 2017
Great piece: Your work on Carmeli's space-time relativity is excellent, quantifying the light-travel time dilation mentioned above. Do you think it is worth challenging the big bangers on their apparent lack of allowance for the time dilation their own model would surely produce? IE a type of associated event horizon problem? The gravitional well induced by their expansion ought to be colossal, oughtn't it?
John G Hartnett responds
There are none so blind as those who will not see. Jesus put it nicely: "If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead." (Luke 16:31)
Bernard G., Australia, 28 August 2017
This past weekend (here in Australia) there was an airing of "Forces of Nature with Brian Cox". The show was chock full of secular uniformitarianism statements on cosmology and cosmogeny such as "billions of years" and "must have happened" and "no one yet knows". CMI articles like this really help readers to quickly spot such presuppositions/assumptions because the programs themselves never make clear what is operational science and what are "assumptions based on a certain worldview". I laughed heartily when the narrator claimed "how our planet's beauty is created by just a handful of forces". How can these geniuses not realize that "forces" merely describe how things behave under given conditions - they can never ever create anything! LOL.
Kenneth L., Canada, 28 August 2017
Good article, but it seemed to end too abruptly and left me primed (with a desire) for more information based on the last few paragraphs. I can imagine many readers wanting a bit more information after the 'conclusion' paragraphs. Two additional things I would like to have read: First, why you believe your worldview/cosmogeny is superior to the atheistic worldview/cosmogeny; second, what are some of the "fudge factors" you mentioned without further comment, and why are they not valid science or even valid speculation? Perhaps your next article could deal with these?
Don Batten responds
Please check the reference given, and check the related reading!
Timothy C., United States, 28 August 2017
If only these so-called "scientists" would take a look at the real science that clearly indicates such things as stellar evolution, the big bang, etc., to be impossible, they would stop wasting taxpayer money on their failed religion and do some real science by experimenting with things like how to make a self-sustainable colony on Mars. Or what the economic viability is of mining asteroids or the moon for materials and fuel to make spacecraft production cheaper.
Guy G., United States, 1 September 2017
Excellent article. It confirms what I've always worried about relative to the "science-soundness" of cosmology and astronomy. I've always thought of it like a dentist, who had to study tooth decay from the distance of a football field: He could look at potential patients who he thought might have tooth decay, but he could never communicate with them or do experiments on them. He could only look. There are things about astronomy that are quite scientific, I'm sure, but when you can only look at something, interpretation is quite variable....