Surficial continental erosion places the Flood/post-Flood boundary in the late Cenozoic


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Journal of Creation
August 2013

Major, surficial continental erosion provides substantial physical evidence for the Genesis Flood. Four direct methods of measuring surficial continental erosion are used to determine the vast amount of erosion over select regions of the continents, such as the Colorado Plateau, the Appalachian Mountains, and the Rocky Mountains. Significant erosion of the top of valley-and basin-fill sedimentary rocks in the Rocky Mountains—up to 850 m in Wyoming, 1,520 m in Colorado, and 1,000 m in New Mexico—can be demonstrated. Eroded debris from the continents formed thick continental margin sedimentary rocks. The character of resulting landforms is unique and indicates large-scale processes. More significantly, this erosion occurred in the mid to late Cenozoic, assuming the geological column for sake of discussion, strongly suggesting a Flood/post-Flood boundary in the late Cenozoic, often in the very late Cenozoic.

Figure 1. Steamboat Rock, a 275 m high vertically-walled erosional remnant, formed during the rapid erosion of Grand Coulee by the Lake Missoula flood.

The Flood/post-Flood boundary is a topic of some interest for Flood models. It controls the extent and timing of Flood and post-Flood events as represented in the rock record. I will assume the general order of the geological column for the sake of discussion in this article, since many creationists believe the geological column, minus the old ages, represents the order of biblical earth history.1 I have come to accept that the geological column represents a general order with lots of exceptions.

Fourteen previously published criteria indicate a late Cenozoic boundary for the Flood’s end.2 A follow-up article has emphasized some of these criteria with nine examples from the sedimentary rocks and geomorphology.3 There are many more criteria that show a late Cenozoic boundary. The late Cenozoic is the location in the geological column that is broken down into Miocene, Pliocene, and Quaternary, the latter consisting predominantly of the Pleistocene. I believe every stratigraphic site needs to be evaluated on its own merits. As a result I have often concluded that the Flood/post-Flood boundary is in the early to mid Pleistocene at various locations. However, in other areas, I have found evidence it could be in the Miocene or Pliocene. We cannot trust the radiometric and biostratigraphic dates of the late Cenozoic as being accurate in a relative sense.

One of the strongest lines of evidence for Flood runoff, and a Flood/post-Flood boundary near the top of the geological column, is the amount and nature of observed erosion on the surface of the continents. The nature of this erosion must be interpreted from field data on a case-by-case basis. However, the amount, which is also determined from individual locales, can be extrapolated across wider areas.

Methods of estimating surficial continental erosion

There are several methods for estimating the amount of erosion in a region. Some of them are indirect, such as chemical and cosmogenic isotopic methods, which rely on radiometric dating. Since these methods are based on uniformitarian assumptions, other more scientific methods will be used.

Minimum erosional values can be determined from the height of tall erosional remnants, called inselbergs (they are also called monadnocks, bornhardts, or tower karst in limestone terrain).4 Examples include Devils Tower in northeast Wyoming, USA, and Ayers Rock in central Australia. There are thousands of these erosional remnants across the earth. Tall erosional remnants with cliffs, like Steamboat Rock (figure 1) in the Upper Grand Coulee of central Washington State, USA, were formed rapidly in the massive Lake Missoula flood at the peak of the Ice Age.5 Thus, it appears that catastrophic floods will create these remnants by eroding all the rock around them. Since erosional remnants are often sedimentary rocks and the rock is well indurated at the top, it is not unreasonable to add another 300 m or more to represent the overburden necessary for compaction and lithification. Because this amount is so uncertain, only the top of the erosional remnant will be used and, therefore, estimates presented here will remain minimum erosional values.

Figure 2. Schematic of the rapid Flood erosion of an anticline.

An anticline is a fold, generally convex upward, the core of which contains older rocks.6 When the centre axis of an anticline is eroded, the amount of missing section can be calculated from the dip of the strata on the limbs, assuming that they were the same thickness over the eroded top of the anticline. Figure 2 illustrates the hypothetical uplift of an anticline and subsequent erosion of its top during the Flood. Calculating the missing section at the centre of the anticline is relatively easy with trigonometry. Essentially, it calls for projecting dipping beds on the limb up to the axis, and then subtracting the elevation of the existing rock. If the beds thinned over the axis, the calculation is still a good estimate. And the estimate is probably low, given the likelihood of additional strata overlying the anticline prior to uplift and erosion.

A third method is that of using coal rank at or near the surface. The formation of coal is supposed to be related to temperature, with rank increasing with higher temperature from lignite, to bituminous, to anthracite coal. Since temperature is usually a function of depth of burial, higher-rank coals suggest deeper burial and, thus, greater erosion. Other factors can complicate the calculation, and one must assume a certain geothermal gradient in the past (usually the same as in the present), but coal rank does provide an educated guess. In any case, the presence of bituminous or anthracite coal at or near the surface typically suggests prior burial under several thousand metres of rock.

A fourth and final method of determining erosion on a continental scale is to measure the volume of sediments at the continental margins, which includes the continental shelf and slope, and, along ‘passive continental margins’, the continental rise. If the drainage area for these sediments can be estimated, a rough estimate of total erosion can be made.

Broad-scale erosion of the continents

There have been two main periods of continental erosion with minor periods between. The first is a great scouring of the mostly granite upper crust forming the Great Unconformity as seen in the Grand Canyon. This unconformity is observed in many other locations of western North America and probably the world. After thick sediments were laid on the unconformity, the sediments were sometimes eroded off (e.g. in mountain building), exposing the flat-to-nearly-flat surface as an exhumed planation surface.

Image: Ray Sterner with the provinces drawn by Peter Klevberg Colorado-Plateau
Figure 3. The Colorado Plateau of the south-west United States San Rafael Swell noted by an ellipse, and the location for estimates of erosion on limbs of anticlines indicated by the north-south line.

The second major period of erosion occurred after practically all the sedimentary rocks were laid on the continent and then an extremely large amount of the total rock volume was subsequently eroded. Landforms suggest that the surficial erosion occurred in one of two manners: first by widespread sheet erosion, and second by channelized erosion afterwards superimposed on the sheet erosion landforms. Examples of sheet erosion in several locations can help us gain an appreciation for the total amount of surficial erosion that has taken place on the continents.

Colorado Plateau

The thick sedimentary rocks of the Colorado Plateau (figure 3) are generally mildly deformed into domes and basins (anticlines and synclines). The domes have been heavily eroded. Using direct measurement of thicknesses and angles, an estimate of this erosion can be made.

The Grand Staircase (figure 4) is part of the western Colorado Plateau, and is shown by the north–south line in figure 3. It represents the eroded north limb of a huge east–west anticline that was once centered near Grand Canyon. The sedimentary rocks that form cliffs in the Grand Staircase are about 3,000 m thick. They are erosional remnants of strata that once extended far south. Since the assumption of constant thickness might be overly generous, we will assume that the missing sedimentary layers thinned by about 40% to the south. Based on this estimate, the minimum amount of erosion creating the Grand Staircase would have been 1,830 m. Furthermore, if the 600-m-thick, widespread Marysvale Volcanic Field, which overlies the Grand Staircase back to the north (figure 5), was present to the south, it would add that thickness, bringing the minimum thickness up to 2,430 m. Therefore, estimates of erosion range from 2,430 m up to 3,600 m over the Grand Canyon area before the canyon formed!

Figure 4. The Grand Staircase (view north from the Kaibab Plateau just north of Grand Canyon, northern Arizona, USA).

The top layer of the Grand Staircase, the Claron Formation (often wrongly ascribed to the Wasatch Formation) is dated as early Cenozoic. The Marysvale Volcanic Field is dated from the mid Cenozoic to the early late Cenozoic.7 Since all of these rocks had to be emplaced before erosion, the sheet erosion of this rock, from northern Arizona and southern Utah, must have occurred in the late Cenozoic, arguing for a post-Flood boundary in that area during the very late Cenozoic.

This erosion created a planation surface in the Grand Canyon area (figure 6). Planation surfaces of this scale are not forming today. This erosion-caused planation surface also formed late in the Cenozoic.

Another location on the Colorado Plateau where erosion can be mechanically calculated is at the San Rafael Swell, in the north-western plateau area, shown by the ellipse in figure 3. It is 120 km by about 65 km.8 The sedimentary rocks of the north limb of the San Rafael Swell, north of Price, Utah, make up the Roan and Book Cliffs and dip about 8° down toward the north-northeast. Oard and Klevberg calculated the amount of missing section above Price, Utah, where the sedimentary rocks start to flatten out.9 Including a conservative dip of 6°, the amount of missing section was calculated as from 3,660–4,575 m. It is likely that the figure should be greater. North of a high pass on Highway 191, erosional remnants of the top formation, the Green River Formation, are about 600 m high, indicating that another 600 m of sedimentary rock once extended over the anticline. So, the total minimum erosion from the San Rafael Swell is 4,200–5,100 m (figure 7)!

Figure 5. The Aquarius Plateau to the north (arrow) on top of the Claron Formation of the fifth stair of the Grand Staircase (view northeast from Bryce Canyon National Park of south-central Utah, USA).

Based on geological clues on the Colorado Plateau at the Grand Staircase and the Roan and Book Cliffs, an average of 2,500–5,000 m of erosion occurred over the entire Colorado Plateau!10 Since the Colorado Plateau represents an area of about 337,000 km2, the volume of rock removed by erosion is 842,000–1,700,000 km3. Since these sediments are not found on the continent, they must have been carried completely off the continent, indicating a large-scale flow of water at high velocities, one consistent with the Recessive Stage of the Flood. For the purposes of this paper, that once again puts the post-Flood boundary in the very late Cenozoic on the Colorado Plateau.

Appalachian Mountains

We have all heard that the Appalachian Mountains of the eastern United States appear old and worn down by erosion. Pazzaglia and Gardner quantify this perception in their estimate of total erosion from the mountains by arguing that over 7 km of rock was removed.11 The proposed age of the Appalachians is a conclusion of uniformitarian geology, one that assumes hundreds of millions of years to erode and smooth mountains. Their rounded appearance does give the impression of the Appalachians’ great age. Since the rocks of the Appalachian region are dated as young as Paleozoic, it is assumed the erosion occurred afterwards, in the mid Mesozoic and Cenozoic, as shown by the dates of the strata off the east coast.12 However, since the erosion took off the top of the sedimentary rocks, it must have occurred near the end of the Flood. If so, is their estimate of erosion still valid? Two different methods yield the same result of about 6.4 km!13

The first method is that of measuring the coal rank at or near the surface. Coal is common in sedimentary rocks just west of the Blue Ridge Mountains. It ranges from high-rank anthracite to medium-rank bituminous, with the rank generally increasing to the southeast.14 Friedman and Sanders stated that the anthracite coal of the Catskill Mountains of New York indicate about 6.4 km of erosion there, assuming a normal temperature gradient.15 If they are correct, their argument would also apply to anthracite coal found near the surface in the sedimentary rock west of the Blue Ridge Mountains. A higher temperature gradient would require less overburden and consequently less erosion.14 Areas with bituminous coal would also require less overburden. For these areas, 4.0–6.4 km of erosion is probably a reasonable estimate of the depth of erosion.

Figure 6. The Grand Canyon planation surface, northern Arizona, USA (view north from the top of Red Butte).

The second method is the volume of sedimentary rocks found on the continental margin. East of the Appalachians, especially in the southern ranges, is a piedmont of metamorphic and igneous rocks. Further east, a sedimentary wedge marks the westward terminus of the continental margin sediments. The boundary of this wedge often occurs at the Fall Line. The sedimentary rocks from the Fall Line to the continental rise represent a seaward prograding and thickening wedge of sediments and sedimentary rock.16,17 These sediments and rocks most likely are the eroded remnants of a much higher Appalachian chain, probably resulting from the late Flood vertical tectonics4 as deduced from all over the earth, and described in the Bible as the uplift of the continents and the sinking of the ocean basins.18 Based on the total amount of sedimentary rocks offshore, the total amount of erosion from east of the Appalachian divide is about 6 km.13

Poag and Sevon state: “The primary forcing mechanisms considered have been tectonic and isostatic uplift and subsidence”.19 Tectonic uplift of the eastern United States is believed to have caused the erosion, while the total amount of subsidence off the coast along the continental margin is believed to be 14 km to accommodate the thick sediments!12,18 This statement reminds us of Psalm 104:8a, the mechanism God applied to drain the floodwater: “The mountains rose; the valleys sank down.” Isostatic uplift is a secondary tectonic force caused by the removal of rock. Conversely, the addition of sediments is also a secondary mechanism that will add to the great rifting and downwarping of the ocean margin.

Figure 7. The eroded north limb of the San Rafael Swell, showing 4,200–5,100 m of erosion over Price, Utah, USA. The dashed lines with question marks represent the extrapolation of the sedimentary rock up the San Rafael Swell, assuming no change in thickness.

Erosion was rapid

Several areas in the western United States demonstrate that the erosion was rapid and also recent. For instance, Devils Tower would not remain standing for millions of years while all the surrounding plains were eroded.20 This is because vertical rock faces are more easily eroded since they are strongly affected by gravity, causing rock slides and falls.21,22 Furthermore, the extensive vertical cracks of the tower would be prone to destruction by freeze-thaw weathering. Cracks fill with water during storms, and as the water freezes during cold periods, the cracks enlarge. One would expect blocks of rock to frequently break free and fall to the base of the tower each winter. And indeed that is what is observed today:

“While living near the base of the Tower in November 1954, during periods of frost action at night one could hear blocks crash onto the talus. This would happen typically after a snowfall … . On a warm sunny day the snow would melt and the moisture would enter the joints [vertical cracks] in the Tower. After dark, the water would freeze and expand, which over time continues to force blocks from the Tower and build more talus.”23

Devils Tower should have been destroyed quickly in a timeframe of tens of thousands of years, certainly in less than 100,000 years.

Uniformitarian geologists, of course, believe that the whole Grand Canyon area was eroded by water over millions of years during the Great Denudation that formed the Grand Staircase. However, there are subtle but powerful indications that the Great Denudation was not slow but very rapid, as we would expect in the powerful runoff of the Genesis Flood. This evidence is found largely in the type of rock that eroded from the top of the fifth ‘stair’ of the Grand Staircase. The soft Claron Formation (the Pink Cliffs) makes up the top or the fifth stair, but volcanic rock once capped it, as shown by volcanic rock that crops out on the northern portion of the fifth stair (figure 5). C.H. Crickmay noted the perplexing erosional relationships between the 600 m of hard volcanic rock eroded north from the top of the northern Table Cliffs Plateau and the erodible and soft Claron Formation that forms the top of the plateau:

“For example, nothing strikes a visitor more than the preservation of upland surfaces in the High Plateau country of Utah; particularly, the vertical succession of survivals. One of the highest is the Aquarius Plateau, formed on top of about 600 m of resistant lavas. But, protruding from below these volcanics, stands the Table Cliffs Plateau composed of the erodible Wasatch Formation, from which the resistant capping of volcanics has been stripped; nevertheless the unresistant formation has maintained a plateau form while the surround country, over vast areas, has been lowered another 1,200 m or more.”24

If we closely follow what Crickmay is saying, we see that the hard volcanic rock of the Aquarius Plateau eroded first, exposing the soft strata of the Wasatch Formation (now the Claron Formation). Then about 1,200 m of strata below and south of the Claron Formation of the Table Cliffs Plateau was eroded, forming the other stairs of the Grand Staircase. During all this time, the soft Claron Formation capping the Table Cliffs Plateau was hardly touched!

If the erosion took millions of years, the soft Claron Formation would have easily eroded after the lava cap was removed. In addition, erosion at the higher elevations of the Table Cliffs Plateau would be more rapid, since higher elevations generally receive more precipitation. Figure 8 shows the huge contrast in erosion as seen by Crickmay. The only way the top of the Claron Formation can remain uneroded after the volcanic rock is eroded is if the erosion of the lava happened rapidly, and not over many tens of millions of years, as envisioned by uniformitarian geologists, but recently. This implies that the entire Grand Staircase was eroded rapidly, consistent with the Recessive Stage of the Flood.

Figure 8. Diagram showing the erosion of the Grand Staircase, south-central Utah. The 600 m of volcanic rock on top of the Table Cliffs Plateau eroded northward, while the soft Claron Formation underneath hardly eroded downward. The only way this can happen is if the erosion of the volcanic rocks was rapid, implying that the Grand Staircase was eroded rapidly Image: Peter Klevberg.

Another indication of rapid erosion is also found in the Grand Canyon area. Navajo Mountain near the Utah/Arizona border is about 130 km north-east of Grand Canyon. It stands at 3,166 m above sea level. It is a volcanic mass that formed within sedimentary rocks. Now it stands about 1,830 m above the surrounding sedimentary rocks. Therefore, 1,830 m of sedimentary rock must have eroded quickly over the whole region, similar to Devils Tower, or Navajo Mountain would not exist, since mountains erode much faster than a generally horizontal surface.

Other examples of continental erosion

Other areas of North America demonstrate similarly significant erosion. More than a 1.6 km of rock was eroded from southern Arizona during the Cenozoic.25 Several kilometres of strata disappeared from the Rocky Mountains, foothills, and western Plains of southern Canada in the late Cenozoic.26,27

North America is not unique in this regard. Large-scale erosion scoured other continents, especially in mountainous areas.28,29 Although more estimates of continental erosion can be found in the geological literature, a few will suffice to show that what happened in North America was typical of late Flood erosion.


Figure 9. Uplifted, eroded Wealden Dome of southeast England. Total erosion in the center of the dome is about 1,500 m.
Image: Wikipedia.

Geological features in Australia show that this continent was also heavily eroded.30 For example, 6 km of rock was probably removed from the Flinders Range in South Australia.31,32 In Europe, about 3 km was taken off the Welsh Mountains of the United Kingdom.33 About 1–1.5 km of sedimentary rock was stripped from south-east England (figure 9).34,35

Partridge believes more than 1–3 km of rock was eroded from Southern Africa since the Cretaceous.36 More impressive is the 4–7 km of erosion that occurred in the Cenozoic along the coast of the 260-km-long McMurdo sector of the Transantarctic Mountains.37

Since most mountain uplift occurred during the Cenozoic,38 all this erosion also likely occurred during the Cenozoic, generally in the mid to late Cenozoic.

Rocky Mountain basin and valley erosion

On a smaller scale, we can see other examples of significant erosion in valleys and basins of the Rocky Mountains. This erosion occurred mainly after the sheet erosion phase of the Flood’s retreat and within the channelized erosion. Deep valleys were eroded to depths of over 1,000 m in the Absaroka Volcanics, after the planation of the top of these volcanic debris flows—all occurring in the mid and late Cenozoic.3 The same methods provide good estimates of the minimum amount of erosion in valleys and basins that have thick sedimentary rocks. The following examples are from valleys and basins of the Rocky Mountains, but other basins and valleys around the world undoubtedly would show a similar picture.

The minimum amount of erosion of the top of the basin-or-valley-fill sedimentary rocks in the Rocky Mountains has been determined by geologists based on the first two methods above.39 Average estimates in Wyoming range up to 850 m (table 1). Similar estimates in Colorado reach 1,520 m, and up to 1,000 m in New Mexico. Other estimates of erosion from the High Plains of the United States, where the strata are generally flat, include: (1) around 180 m in north-west Texas, (2) 180 m in south-east Colorado, (3) 120 m in north-west Kansas, (4) around 400 m in western Nebraska, (5) 190 m in south-west South Dakota, and (6) less than 100 m in northeast Montana. These are likely gross underestimates because of the lack of erosional remnants and eroded anticlines on the High Plains. As in many other locations, the bulk of this erosion occurred in the late Cenozoic.

Table 1. Minimum amount of erosion in select basins and valleys of Wyoming, USA, in metres.39

Oard previously estimated the amount of basin-fill erosion of the eastern Bighorn Basin as 744 m based on the heights of Tatman Mountain and the town of Greybull.3 The western Bighorn Basin is significantly higher (about 1,550 m) than the eastern Bighorn Basin, which explains why the average for the Bighorn Basin in table 1 is lower than Oard’s estimate for the eastern Bighorn Basin. With an average of 470 m of erosion, the volume eroded from the Bighorn Basin is about 10,000 km3.

Sheet deposition along the edge of the continents

Many continental margins are marked by thick sedimentary wedges extending up and down their coast. Prominent examples include the Atlantic Coastal Plain and Gulf Coastal Plain in the United States. These basins and sediments are relatively young, and their sediment was derived from continental erosion. These sedimentary wedges can reach thicknesses of a few 10s of kms, and the total volume of these features is another indicator of the extensive late erosion from the continental interiors. Because most of these deposits are considered to be Cenozoic, they form one of the original 14 criteria used to determine the location of the Flood/post-Flood boundary, which in this case would be in the very late Cenozoic.2

Unique erosional features left behind

As mentioned above, landform features provide one of the best evidences for continental erosion. These features include everything from planation surfaces to wind and water gaps,4 including large-scale features such as Grand Canyon. One of the underexploited areas for creationist research has been geomorphology. That is because features that have remained frustrating mysteries to uniformitarian geologists for more than a century are readily explained by Flood processes. It is the consistently late ages of these features (many in the late Cenozoic)2 that lead to the confident conclusion that the rock record representing the Flood includes rocks up to and through the late Cenozoic, depending on the location. Any diluvialist wishing to place the boundary lower in the rock record, for example at the K/T boundary, must be prepared to explain all of these late geomorphic features in terms of post-Flood catastrophism, a task that seems both difficult and unnecessary.

Summary and implications

One of the easiest methods to determine the post-Flood boundary is to estimate the age and amount of erosion in a given area. Based on direct scientific methods, the amount of continental erosion is typically quite large and quite late. Calculations range up to 5 km over the Colorado Plateau and 6 km over the Appalachians. Furthermore, the magnitude is put in better perspective when we remember that the average sedimentary rock cover on the continents is only 1.8 km (see below). Minimum erosion can be estimated on smaller scales, such as the basins and valleys of the Rocky Mountains, in which around 1,000 m of missing section can be calculated.

Wherever the erosion took place on the continent, the sedimentary particles were often carried long distances, even to the margins. With the vertical tectonics of continental uplift and ocean basin subsidence, large basins were created there to contain these sedimentary wedges, such as the Gulf of Mexico. Unique landform features were created by the Recessional Stage of the Flood, and are readily explained by those large-scale events, even though they remain unsolved mysteries for uniformitarian geologists, and are also difficult to account for using the concept of post-Flood catastrophism.

The geomorphology of the earth’s surface shows a transition in the surface features from the products of widespread sheet flow erosion, such as planation surfaces, to the channelized incision of features like wind and water gaps: “The transition from widespread planation of the landscapes during the Tertiary to valley development and incision during the Quaternary is well documented in Europe.”40 This is exactly what is expected during the Recessive Stage of the Flood. This transition from sheet flow erosion to channelized flow erosion would be dependent on topography and location, but would generally occur sooner at elevated regions that were first exposed as the floodwaters receded.

It cannot be overemphasized that the timing of all these regional scale features is late in the rock record. Surficial planation surfaces (not exhumed) began to be formed during the Cenozoic, representing the events of the early Recessional Stage of the Flood called the Abative Phase.41 Valleys and canyons, typical of the Dispersive Phase of the Recessional Stage, were carved afterwards.4 Uniformitarian geologists attempt to explain the creation of these features in terms of their repeating ice ages, up to 50 or more,42 assuming the astronomical theory of the ice ages. But this idea assumes many ice ages and so valleys and at least the upper terraces need to be related to non-existent ice ages in the uniformitarian scheme.43 (The explanation of river terraces needs to be examined within biblical earth history and is beyond the scope of this article.)

Figure 10. Schematic of the large amount of continental erosion during the Recessional Stage of the Flood (drawn by Mrs. Melanie Richard).

Practically all the surficial erosion of large areas of continents, as well as basins and valleys of the Rocky Mountains, occurred in the mid to late Cenozoic. This erosion, as inferred from the unique landforms on earth’s surface, seems impossible to explain by post-Flood catastrophism but provides strong evidence instead for their formation during the Recessional Stage of the Flood.41

Advocates of a K/T Flood/post-Flood boundary must postulate huge post-Flood catastrophes during the Cenozoic. They have yet to postulate any mechanisms to explain this large-scale catastrophic erosion and that these mechanisms would be superior to that proposed here. The problem grows by orders of magnitude for those advocates of a Flood/ post-Flood boundary in the late Paleozoic or even in the Precambrian, the latter called the Recolonization Model.44,45 At present, the best explanation remains the runoff of the Genesis Flood, as proposed long ago by Holt, when he coined the term Erodozoic for the time in which the sediments and sedimentary rocks were eroded off the top of the continents.46

Figure 10 summarizes the argument for late Cenozoic erosion by the retreating Flood. There is approximately 1,800 m average depth of sedimentary rocks on the continents.47 Based on the estimates of erosion, a conservative average erosion of the continents would be around 500 m. So, at the peak of the Flood, the total thickness would be around 2,300 m, deposited early in the Flood during the Inundatory Stage. This means that the uniformitarian view that the rock record is a representative snapshot of events throughout earth history must be set aside in favour of a view that suggests that the uppermost 20–25% of the rock record deposited during the Flood was removed by its retreat, and that the remaining rocks were deposited in the early to middle Flood. This is another instance in which uniformitarian thinking is subliminally introduced into diluvial research. Since the last half of the Flood was primarily erosional on the continents, practically all the fossils were buried on the continents during the Inundatory Stage, just as Roy Holt deduced: “It is incredible that these evidences suggest that the majority of activity of the Flood occurred within the first 150 days.”48


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Lachlan W., Australia, 12 September 2014
Growing up in the Blue Mountains of New South Wales, Australian, I did quite a lot of Canyoning. Being found mainly in the Hawkesbury sandstone, these types of canyons are very narrow, ranging from about 30cm to 20m, with heights of about 5m to 50m. A common theme was that about the top half to two thirds of the canyons were about the same in narrowness, with it beginning to develop a wider bell type shape below that. The standard uniformatarian models of slow vertical cutting caused by the creek did not seem capable of producing the type of canyons i saw. Being a Biblical creationist and knowing a litte geology I often surmised that as the Flood waters sheeted off the soft sediment, the small rivulets left to the last by the retreating waters would have cut very narrow rivulets, or canyons, in the soft sediment, which, later hardening, allowed subsequent rainfall to produce a creek which then laterally cut the sandstone as much as vertically cutting it, thus creating its present shape. Of course your site has written often of the Blue Mountains and its testament to the Flood, but I thought this might add just a little more grist to the mill. Assuming of course my interpretation of what I saw is anything like correct.
Alan B., United Kingdom, 12 September 2014
Thank you for telling me that by believing in a young earth I am also believing it was formed in the "late Cenozoic". I am disappointed that I had to use Google to find out that Cenozoic means some when in the last 65 million years - but at least I guess this rules out the Billions of years dictated by "the religion of there is no God".
Shaun Doyle responds
Mr Oard doesn't accept millions of years either. He said this at the beginning of the article: "I will assume the general order of the geological column for the sake of discussion in this article, since many creationists believe the geological column, minus the old ages, represents the order of biblical earth history [emphases added]."
Kevin R. P., United States, 13 September 2014
Great articles lately about erosion! (see also, I just drove from El Paso, Texas back to Colorado. And, “by chance”, I have been planning to spend a couple months in North/East Wyoming in December. My curious eyes are always wondering how this or that structure came about during the three periods: creation week, flood year, and everything since. Figure 10 explains - somewhat - why dinosaur ridge near Denver (eastern edge of the Colorado Rocky Mountains) and Dinosaur National Monument (western edge of these mountains) reveal dinosaur fossils on the top (flat surface) of jutting structures (cracked upward during mountain uplift). Under the dinosaur ridge structure, near Denver, (with dinosaur footprints seen on top), you can see many layers of sediment (because they are cut by I-70, and other road work). With some dinosaur fossil and foot impressions down several layers (60 feet below, using eye ball measurement, although, by walking around the structure, you can touch the fossils on the top and bottom). (I take some of this to be pieces of surface sliding under other nearby pieces during the violent process. Appearing to be in a different layer but really on the same layer but shoved under a neighbor.) So, thinking out loud, before the mountains in this area began to uplift, the east and west fossils (burials) would have been on the same structure (some sort of a plain). Then the mountains pushed up (causing these structures to tilt into their current position).